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[~JBG~]

Ok so let me ask you this: what makes Platform Racing 4 any different from the other games? Help me out here, bro. I’m struggling to understand this because I’m literally seeing the same old stuff. You mean to tell me that a hand full of people are working effortlessly on this game, and not one person has anything completely different or next level? You see the problem, here?

So far several new block types, wall jumps, and fully customizable character "creator"
I think you misunderstood what I said about the people working on the game, they aren't working effortlessly on the game, it's just people doing it in their spare time when they have energy for it.

Yeah and you know what the problem with that is? They’re too much alike. They’re too much related to one another. I’m trying to push you guys to be better than this because this game could have a lot of potential and compete with everyone else if it was headed into the right direction.

Not sure what you mean but it's okay.

Code? Yeah, that sounds complicated already, man. I’m an innovator, not a coder. This is why I suggested building a team and working together. I hate anything to do with code.

I mean with that attitude it's difficult to see a reason to hear out your ideas tbh, it's weird to critique others work in the manner you do and then expect the same people to want to implement whatever ideas you think are superior.
Coding and art is both skills you can hone and become better at if you give it a shot, like I've suggested multiple times to you throughout the years.

Incentives are what keeps people active in these leaderboards and tournaments. At least give me a reward for reaching #1 or something. If we don’t hand out any incentives then it’s going to get stale, really quick. The only people who care about leaderboards for this particular game are the OG’s of Pr2 (particularly you guys) no offense. Mind you, that’s a very small handful of people. I’d say about 1/10th of you guys. I’m only trying to push you guys to be better, that’s all.

Don't agree, not sure how involved with speedrunning you've been in games in general but most of the time people strive to be number one on maps and that's the incentive driving them to it. Very rarely is there any type of prize to it other than the fact that you managed to beat everyone else.

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So far several new block types, wall jumps, and fully customizable character "creator".

I see. I’ll be waiting to see what they do with weapons and hats as well. That’s another important element that could define the game, too.

Not sure what you mean but it's okay.

What I’m trying to tell you is that I’ve seen a bunch of ideas from people that don’t really stand out as being superior or unfathomable. Maybe 1 or 2 were different, but that’s it. It’s either stuff we’ve all heard of before/suggested in the past, or it’s like a couple of ideas were recycled from another thread that already suggested the same idea.

I mean with that attitude it's difficult to see a reason to hear out your ideas tbh, it's weird to critique others work in the manner you do and then expect the same people to want to implement whatever ideas you think are superior.
Coding and art is both skills you can hone and become better at if you give it a shot, like I've suggested multiple times to you throughout the years.

I honestly don’t have the patience to learn how to code because here’s the thing: if I learn how to do all those things, it’s going to take a tremendous amount of my time and effort. I feel like I would have to get paid to do it or something because if I do that stuff, and the ideas don’t get implemented then I would feel like I did it all for nothing. I’d be pissed, man. I’ve seen too many projects get tossed aside after it was demonstrated.

Do you realize how frustrating it is to work hard on something and then have it get tossed aside? I’m just not naturally talented at this artwork thing, I told you guys this already. That’s why I suggested working together as a unit because it would take me months to do it, perfectly. I’m the guy who stretches his imagination coming up with bright ideas telling you what’s missing here and where to put so and so. I’m good at that; that’s my thing along with music and video editing.

Don't agree, not sure how involved with speedrunning you've been in games in general but most of the time people strive to be number one on maps and that's the incentive driving them to it. Very rarely is there any type of prize to it other than the fact that you managed to beat everyone else.

Well then I guess I may have misunderstood leaderboards and took it as an award to get for being #1. To me, it depends on the game. The game would really have to be thrilling for me to strive for #1 on the board.

[~JBG~]

I honestly don’t have the patience to learn how to code because here’s the thing: if I learn how to do all those things, it’s going to take a tremendous amount of my time and effort. I feel like I would have to get paid to do it or something because if I do that stuff, and the ideas don’t get implemented then I would feel like I did it all for nothing. I’d be pissed, man. I’ve seen too many projects get tossed aside after it was demonstrated.

Well coding isn't the only thing you can do to contribute to projects like this, like I say art is also something anyone can pick up and learn.
Nobody coding pr4 is getting paid for it so there's also that.

Do you realize how frustrating it is to work hard on something and then have it get tossed aside? I’m just not naturally talented at this artwork thing, I told you guys this already. That’s why I suggested working together as a unit because it would take me months to do it, perfectly. I’m the guy who stretches his imagination coming up with bright ideas telling you what’s missing here and where to put so and so. I’m good at that; that’s my thing along with music and video editing.

Yeah I do.
We first started talking about stuff related to this topic in 2021, that's roughly 4 years since now I imagine if you had tried to get into the habit of sketching stuff and doing art like once every week since then you'd have made a decent progress in getting the hang of outputting your creativity into artworks.
I think it's somewhat weak to talk badly about the work people put into whatever it is they do when you don't contribute any work.

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Yeah I do.
We first started talking about stuff related to this topic in 2021, that's roughly 4 years since now I imagine if you had tried to get into the habit of sketching stuff and doing art like once every week since then you'd have made a decent progress in getting the hang of outputting your creativity into artworks.
I think it's somewhat weak to talk badly about the work people put into whatever it is they do when you don't contribute any work.

I did try to do it for a little while, then I had stopped for a moment and thought: what are the odds that this will ever get implemented into the game, or the fact that someone actually gives a damn? I just didn’t have the patience or the artistic vision. We can argue the same thing with the Aftermath hat project. I had given it an acronym and its abilities (plus a story) a lot of thought because I’m naturally good at that stuff. I even know what it’s supposed to look like. But drawing the damn thing would take up too much of my time to do it right. Plus I was busy with other things, irl.

Call it weak all you want to, I could care less what you think about that tbh with you. I told you since day 1… I’m an innovator who generates ideas, not draw pictures. Just imagine wearing multiple hats on a project and not get compensated for it in some sort of way. You know what man, you worked me up enough to at least give the damn thing a try. By that I mean the Aftermath hat, project.

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@~JBG~ I’ve had some time to think about the conversation that we had yesterday, and I apologize for harshly criticizing you guys calling the game trash and all. I didn’t mean anything personal by it. I was just trying to push you guys into being better, that’s all. Sometimes the way I push people doesn’t always end up in the right direction that I intended it to. On the other hand, I think we can all agree that all of us has something to bring to the table.

You’re the only one who’s called me out on my crap telling me that I basically need to get back into the lab and working on my unfinished, hat project which I can just pitch for pr4. I appreciate that because sometimes, we need someone in our corner to force us to be a 5-star player. In the meantime, I gotta finish up the other thing that I’ve mentioned to you, earlier.

[~JBG~]

@~JBG~ I’ve had some time to think about the conversation that we had yesterday, and I apologize for harshly criticizing you guys calling the game trash and all. I didn’t mean anything personal by it. I was just trying to push you guys into being better, that’s all. Sometimes the way I push people doesn’t always end up in the right direction that I intended it to. On the other hand, I think we can all agree that all of us has something to bring to the table.

I have nothing to do with the pr4 development haha.
idk man it's a weird thing to do if you are trying to help people into being better at things, generally speaking I don't think people respond well to being called unimaginative or that their work is trash even though I doubt any of the people working on pr4 actually check in on the forum/this thread to see this.

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I have nothing to do with the pr4 development haha.
idk man it's a weird thing to do if you are trying to help people into being better at things, generally speaking I don't think people respond well to being called unimaginative or that their work is trash even though I doubt any of the people working on pr4 actually check in on the forum/this thread to see this.

Have you ever thought about being apart of their team? You could add value to it in terms of your artistic vision.

[~JBG~]

Have you ever thought about being apart of their team? You could add value to it in terms of your artistic vision.

Nah, I avoid doing creative stuff.

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Nah, I avoid doing creative stuff.

Have you ever drawn something that you thought was really good, after looking at someone else’s work and kind of copied them? Because I noticed that a lot of people do that, but then they make slight changes to a couple things or 3.

[~JBG~]

Have you ever drawn something that you thought was really good, after looking at someone else’s work and kind of copied them? Because I noticed that a lot of people do that, but then they make slight changes to a couple things or 3.

I don't really like copying others but I've used public domain woodcuts and etchings as inspirations before.

I haven't really done anything creative in around 3-4 years.

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Once I hit rank 80 on PR2, I'm stopping. And I'll probably leave the JV forums/Discord server around that time too. This community isn't sparking my interest like it used to.

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Once I hit rank 80 on PR2, I'm stopping. And I'll probably leave the JV forums/Discord server around that time too. This community isn't sparking my interest like it used to.

Keep in touch with me. It doesn’t have to be on JV or Discord.

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This project might be a little bit too much for Platform Racing 4, now that I think about it. I’m basically giving away a formula that probably can’t be fulfilled. There’s just so many hidden doors and a lot going on.

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I swear, 3 years ago was a better time period for JV. I used to create threads that would eventually create, controversy. Just arguing back and forth with people taught me a lot about who I was talking to.

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I have other threads kept in the vault that might set off a lot of people, who knows.

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There’s so much more to me than what people are seeing on my threads. My threads are only the 5% tip of the iceberg. It’s the iceberg that you only see above the surface. If this site were more like Reddit and Quora, then I would probably reveal the underground part of the iceberg.

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If I start revealing the rest of the iceberg then I’ll probably get banned. I know what you people really want from these threads. I know how to separate a thread from the 5% of the iceberg.

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The day I leave is the day that everything will go stale just like milk. No one wants to pick my brain because they don’t realize what I’m capable of. Just imagine the things that I can teach you from a creative standpoint of view, alone.

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This site really needs to uplift the kiddy restrictions and let us post whatever the **** we want to.

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I could talk about the matrix, Mandela effect, Illuminati, etc. The iceberg is a lot deeper than you think.